IIF: Tumblr Torture -- I am Your Unsafe Workplace

tobonics:

this man is an idiot.

People who don’t do research are idiots.

http://insanityisfree.tumblr.com/post/15731252026/thecultofcraze-insanityisfree-source

Regards,

IIF

everydayfeminism:

IIF: Tumblr Torture — I am Your Unsafe Workplace: On the objectification of women:

IIF,

It’s been a long day, so I’m a bit cross-eyed, but if I’m understanding your post correctly, you are saying that we should not try to force equal objectification on both sexes, but instead let “demand” (to use an economic term, which makes for an interesting analogy the more I think about it) determine how much of each we have?

I get that.

To be honest, I don’t think there’s a shortage of male objectification at all. The world is filled with pictures of buff men with fantastic abs and smoldering stares. Just like women are pressured to be thin and beautiful, men are pressured to be muscular and masculine. I’m not saying that we should somehow regulate how much objectification happens.

To clarify, my post was more directed towards people who are strongly opposed to female objectification. People who get insulted if someone comments on a celebrity’s boobs. Because I don’t think it’s a big deal at all, but feminists get a bad rap for being outraged every time it happens, and I wanted to challenge that misconception. Objectification in itself has no harm—it’s when it moves on to other things (assault, dehumanization) that it becomes a problem. And both sexes have faced that.

But I think it is a feminist issue in a way because women are expected to not objectify as much as men. I don’t think it should be weird for us to catcall a guy walking down the street.

Overall, I think we agree, though. :)

I agree completely (been a while since I’ve said that to a feminist on Tumblr). I can see some valuable discourse in our futures. I’m following, and I look forward to more conversations. G’day!

Regards,

IIF

georgesescapades:

Ron Paul can go die.

Do research, or shut up.

Regards,

IIF

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yoctavias:

Assholes. Ignorant people and idiots. Not speaking on the rest of normal society, where far better off SHUTTING THE FUCK UP ABOUT GROUPS OF INDIVIDUALS THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!

Fuck. You. Ron. Paul.

Okay, then. Fuck you, too. For not researching your claim before shit talking.

Regards,

IIF

collectivecrack:

Why would you not support Ron Paul, you ask? This is one reason why not. I agree with maybe two things Ron Paul has said, but the rest of it is just complete garbage, like this.

“My name is Carissa. I am a proud feminist and I hold science to be my source of truth.”

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socialistscum:

Ron Paul hates invasive government but supports state-mandated sonograms…

“At issue are provisions in the law, upheld by this week’s ruling from the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, requiring patients seeking an abortion to first undergo a sonogram .” — WP

… Seems reasonable to me. Like requiring an x-ray to confirm that you have a tumor before cutting you open and removing it. It also directly matches his views on abortion. What about this surprises anyone?

Regards,

IIF

nellieblystunad:

Hey, it’s another piece-of-shit, anit-man, stereotyping feminist blog on Tumblr brought on by a meme! Why am I not fucking surprised?

One of the things on the site is “You’re being irrational” Wait, so in the history of time no woman has ever been irrational? Is that what the blog is suggesting? How could “You’re being irrational” mean anything other than you’re not being rational? Where does sex come in?

Isn’t the feminism tag wonderful?

Regards,

IIF

everydayfeminism:

I do it. I do it all the time. I objectify guys too. I like attractive people, okay?

Hear me out.

I am totally fine with the objectification of women. Yep, I actually said that. Here’s what I’m NOT okay with:

• Child pornography or anything close to it
• The unbalanced amount of female objectification compared to male objectification
• The notion that women’s sole purpose is to satisfy sexually and act as sex symbols and that is it
• Continued objectification even if the person asks the objectifier to stop (AKA harassment)

I could go on, but the bottom line is, who doesn’t like pointing to a picture of a celebrity and saying, “She/he’s hot”? But of course there is a line that cannot be crossed (see above) and of course society should ogle at men and women equally. Lastly, we must keep in mind that this is purely a recreational thing, and we should not strive to look like the Photoshopped unrealistic people in the pictures.

Thoughts?

(I seem to have a thing for bulleted lists. Hmm)

Bullets 1, 3, and 4 are fine with me, but 2, not so much.

I don’t think it should be up to society whether or not someone is objectified; I think it should be up to the objectified how much they set themselves up for it, (i.e. the men and women who sign up into the media to be objectified) and the objectifier (how humanely he/she treats this man/woman). I think that once you start demanding things of a society, and that demands them to think/not think a certain way, you have to understand that you’re becoming one of the thought police, and that you cease to be an “everyday feminist”, and start demanding that everybody acquiesce their right to their opinion. Now, if that thing is, for instance, don’t murder, it is a real violation of rights (right to life), but nobody has the right to not be objectified. It is not a feminist issue, because men have no more rights in the field than women, and vice versa; nothing is lost or gained by it.

That said, I’m a Libertarian, and believe in a voluntary society. In this society, you are free to express your disdain at being objectified, but not to stop the objectifier (as this puts limits on voluntary human thought), and vice versa, and the objectifier is free to objectify, as long as no force or harm comes to you. It’s more of a right to think thing than a gender rights thing (which feminism needs for poignancy), especially considering that the objectification of which you speak reflects a decision made on a voluntary level (signing media contracts), or on an existence level (being within view of a member of the public who finds certain traits in you that are attractive to them), either one of which is happening at pretty much all times all across the globe. It shouldn’t be up to you or I how much this happens by, with, to, to what degree, and because of other members of the public. It would be fascist to think so. We should simply be able to speak our piece when and where we see it as harmful. See, it’s a human rights issue, not a womens’ rights (feminist) issue.

Those are my thoughts, anyway.

Regards,

IIF